Darren Shand

Oh, it was great.

I so loved it, you know.

Yeah.

And I think that's the lesson for me.

I guess I just put the pressure on myself.

So I'm like, well, I don't want to be the dad that does that.

And we have good conversations about that, her and I, about what do you want to be.

And she knows.

I want to be the best doctor.

And hockey's just fun.

That's my community.

Surf's my community.

That's my summer break.

I love that.

I can be a lifeguard on the beach, and I love that.

And yeah, I guess that were the lessons for me.

What the All Black job gave me was for the first time I was sitting at the pinnacle and I was close to being what I thought I could be.

Like I never made it in hockey, you know, and that bugged me because two of the guys that were picked with me as 16-year-olds both played more than 250 times for New Zealand.

It's a bit of a missed opportunity.

And some of my time in Queensland where I was trying to achieve some standards and different things that I was being involved in, I didn't quite get to the level I wanted.