Daryl Davis

Maybe I would be, oh, I'm going to stay away from those color of people, that kind of thing.

So I didn't know tribalization simply because of my growing up experience.

Very unique experience.

Exactly.

And most Americans didn't have that.

Now, today, you know, and back then, you know, you buy your kids, you're talking about 1960s, you buy your kids dolls.

I had G.I.

Joe dolls, right?

You know, I don't have any siblings, but, you know, my friends, you know, they have Barbie dolls.

And back then, all the G.I.

Joes were white.

All the Barbie dolls were white.

So black kids had to play with little white dolls.

There was nothing that looked like them.

Today, you have, you know, all kinds of color of dolls and nationalities and ethnicities.

which broadens the scope of these children.

So when they see the real deal walking down the street, you know, well, that's my favorite doll, so I'm okay with that person, rather than, you know, you reinforce that tribalism by buying your kids the dolls that look like you and your parents.

So I try to share that, I guess, vicariously with people.

No, it doesn't.

I mean, I've had some disappointments, you know, people.