Daryl Davis

Not everybody's going to change, you know, on either side, black, white, you know.

Yeah, it's like alcoholics who fall off the wagon, you know, that kind of thing.

But I've had some who I never thought would change.

I mean, there'll be people on all sides who will go to their graves being hateful, violent, racist, whatever, anti-Semitic.

But even some of those I've had come back and change.

But I know not all would do it.

Some would just die hard.

They're not going to change for anything.

And so I don't give up on those people, but I move them down my list of priorities and deal with the ones who are open to talking.

Even though they're just as hateful and violent and racist or whatever, if they will talk, there's an opportunity to plant a seed.

The seed's not going to bloom overnight.

When it happens, great.

Then I move my way down to the ones who didn't want to talk to me or we got into some kind of scuffle or whatever, things like that.

But as I was telling you before, when their buddies change and they see that life improve, sometimes it's a wake-up call for them.

Because, you know...

Initially, they think there's nothing this black guy can do that's going to help them.

Who the hell is he to even think, you know, I'm the superior one, he's the inferior one.

But when they compare their life to their buddy's life, and now he's superior, he's living superiorly and getting along fine, you know, I want that.

So now they come around.

Yeah, it's really flipped around a lot.