Daryl Davis

And they go back out and they do it again.

And people don't accept them because they have that stigma that follows them.

Well, I can't hire an ex-con, you know, blah, blah, blah, whatever.

Right.

Where do they go?

That's what we said.

Now you're speaking Hebrew, you understand.

uh pill i guess you could say i mean um i believed all of it and um they they were the people that i dehumanized the most and yet today they are the people that have been the most open and you know for the longest time you know jews have been blamed for everything things you know they had nothing to do with um they say you know the jews run the media they own the media they you know they they they run the banking systems and all that kind of stuff and so

people begin believing in that, and they become persona non grata, even though they may not even know any Jewish people.

And that's why I say when I feel I can trust some individual who trusts me or whatever around my friends, I will invite them over or whatever, and I bring in some Jewish friends of mine and other black friends or white friends so that they can see something outside the echo chamber.

Another former neo-Nazi who's a very good friend of mine,

was telling me that when he was in... Funny sentence.

A Freudian slip.

No, it's accurate.

Exactly.

So anyway, he was telling me when he was in the movement, he's from Wisconsin, and their football team is the Green Bay Packers, and they're just crazy about their football team.

And so he would tell me that they're not allowed to watch football games

because there's interracial black and white members on the teams playing together, so that's forbidden.

And so he'd have to sneak around and watch, turn the volume down, and watch the game, because he loved the Packers, right?

And when the Packers would score a goal, he'd do it like this.