Dave Damaschek

And if you look at the whole picture, then you're right that Leno does deserve some slack on that count, at least.

Right.

It does seem it did.

But everybody, you know, like you say, a year ago, six months ago, three months or whatever it was, three months before they actually made the big change.

Yeah, it seemed like, well, this is this is ridiculous.

This is the by far.

I mean, he is destroying Letterman, but we're going to take him off.

It seemed crazy.

And I thought the whole thing was then they would have to pay out Conan an exorbitant sum to get out from under it.

But now they have to do that anyway.

Is that why they went and let him go seven months?

Because now there's a different financial standard that needs to be paid out?

Well, Kimmel on Tuesday night.

Did Leno.

He came out an hour as Jay Leno.

And it was Dynamite and also Cleto.

Dynamite job basically doing an impression of Kevin the whole show.

Just reiterating everything that Jimmy slash Jay said.

You know, it's very what it reminds me of is is radio in a lot of ways.

Howard Stern.