Dave Davies

have an edge but it's interesting as I read your story that doesn't that's no guarantee of success is it sometimes it's kind of an obstacle having a big organization you know it's interesting let's use the example of Google let's give Google credit first they were so far ahead of almost everyone else

have an edge but it's interesting as I read your story that doesn't that's no guarantee of success is it sometimes it's kind of an obstacle having a big organization you know it's interesting let's use the example of Google let's give Google credit first they were so far ahead of almost everyone else

have an edge but it's interesting as I read your story that doesn't that's no guarantee of success is it sometimes it's kind of an obstacle having a big organization you know it's interesting let's use the example of Google let's give Google credit first they were so far ahead of almost everyone else

Right, right. And so a lot of times you see the big companies buying smaller startups that have shown promise. It's interesting that this company called OpenAI kind of became the public face of artificial intelligence in a way. It was A startup that didn't have the power of a Microsoft or a Google behind it. It was this guy, Sam Altman and some other folks. Elon Musk.

Right, right. And so a lot of times you see the big companies buying smaller startups that have shown promise. It's interesting that this company called OpenAI kind of became the public face of artificial intelligence in a way. It was A startup that didn't have the power of a Microsoft or a Google behind it. It was this guy, Sam Altman and some other folks. Elon Musk.

Right, right. And so a lot of times you see the big companies buying smaller startups that have shown promise. It's interesting that this company called OpenAI kind of became the public face of artificial intelligence in a way. It was A startup that didn't have the power of a Microsoft or a Google behind it. It was this guy, Sam Altman and some other folks. Elon Musk.

Yeah, Elon Musk among others, right, right. And there's a moment that was sort of a critical transformational point. when they released this version of ChatGPT. But that was preceded by a dinner at Bill Gates House, which you described, which the house being as absolutely as magnificent as you would expect Bill Gates House to be. Tell us about that evening. What happened?

Yeah, Elon Musk among others, right, right. And there's a moment that was sort of a critical transformational point. when they released this version of ChatGPT. But that was preceded by a dinner at Bill Gates House, which you described, which the house being as absolutely as magnificent as you would expect Bill Gates House to be. Tell us about that evening. What happened?

Yeah, Elon Musk among others, right, right. And there's a moment that was sort of a critical transformational point. when they released this version of ChatGPT. But that was preceded by a dinner at Bill Gates House, which you described, which the house being as absolutely as magnificent as you would expect Bill Gates House to be. Tell us about that evening. What happened?

We're going to take another break here. Let me reintroduce you. We are speaking with Gary Rivlin. He's a veteran investigative reporter. His new book is AI Valley, Microsoft, Google, and the Trillion Dollar Race to Cash in on Artificial Intelligence. We'll be back to talk more in just a moment. This is Rush Air.

We're going to take another break here. Let me reintroduce you. We are speaking with Gary Rivlin. He's a veteran investigative reporter. His new book is AI Valley, Microsoft, Google, and the Trillion Dollar Race to Cash in on Artificial Intelligence. We'll be back to talk more in just a moment. This is Rush Air.

We're going to take another break here. Let me reintroduce you. We are speaking with Gary Rivlin. He's a veteran investigative reporter. His new book is AI Valley, Microsoft, Google, and the Trillion Dollar Race to Cash in on Artificial Intelligence. We'll be back to talk more in just a moment. This is Rush Air.

You know, a few weeks ago, there was this development which kind of shook the stock market. This Chinese company called DeepSeek announced that they had created this artificial intelligence system at far less cost without the sophisticated microchips that American companies were using. It made Americans wonder, heavens, are we about to be overtaken? I don't know. Where does all this leave us?

You know, a few weeks ago, there was this development which kind of shook the stock market. This Chinese company called DeepSeek announced that they had created this artificial intelligence system at far less cost without the sophisticated microchips that American companies were using. It made Americans wonder, heavens, are we about to be overtaken? I don't know. Where does all this leave us?

You know, a few weeks ago, there was this development which kind of shook the stock market. This Chinese company called DeepSeek announced that they had created this artificial intelligence system at far less cost without the sophisticated microchips that American companies were using. It made Americans wonder, heavens, are we about to be overtaken? I don't know. Where does all this leave us?

How important is this development?

How important is this development?

How important is this development?

Do you mean the deep-seek, the Chinese, or do you mean whom?

Do you mean the deep-seek, the Chinese, or do you mean whom?