Dave Davies

Any sense of how difficult that will be?

Trevor Burrus Trump indicated at one point that the United States might join with Iran in charging tolls to commercial ships moving through the strait.

I mean he said, look, we're the winner.

We won.

Why shouldn't we benefit?

What's your reaction to that?

You know, one of the things that's been interesting in the analysis of this war is what got the United States into it.

And the New York Times did a piece last week about the deliberations that led to Trump's decision, which seemed to support the idea that President Trump was manipulated by Bibi Netanyahu into starting this war.

What's your sense?

The other thing about Trump launching this war of choice was that he didn't seem to have taken into account the possibility that Iran would take advantage of its geographical position and close the Strait of Hormuz and shoot up oil prices and threaten the world economy.

Is the failure to anticipate that – does it say something about the Trump administration and the way it –

The way it's organized, the way it taps intelligence resources?

I'm going to take another break here.

We are speaking with Aaron David Miller.

He spent 25 years in the U.S.

State Department.

He's now a senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

We'll continue our conversation after this short break.

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Trevor Burrus You recently wrote a piece in foreign policy or co-wrote a piece in foreign policy about Trump's diplomatic team on this, Jared Kushner, his son-in-law, and Steve Witkoff, his friend from the real estate business.