Dave Davies

I began to keep a list of nationally known hate crimes which had an Orange County connection.

You mentioned the attack at the Sikh temple outside of Milwaukee.

Yes.

Another one was the horrific attack at the Tree of Life Synagogue in Pittsburgh.

I mean the shooter was not from Orange County.

That was Robert Bowers.

But he was influenced by an Orange County group called the Rise Above Movement, right?

They were pushing the so-called replacement theory that whites were being replaced by others, right?

So I want to talk about Sam Woodward who was the guy who murdered Blaise Bernstein, a gay Jewish college student, which is one of the stories at the heart of this.

He became interested in extremist thinking as a teenager.

What were his influences?

What got him there?

He switched high schools eventually, left the art school.

Right.

You mentioned that he tried college and then quit and came home and began keeping a journal on his cell phone, which eventually was examined after his arrest.

What kind of entries were there in this journal?

Woodward meets a guy named Tristan Evans who recruits him to come to Texas and join a group called the Atomwaffen Division.

First of all, does that have a meaning in German?

Okay.

What is the Atomwaffen division?