Dave Davies

So Sam Woodward, this guy from Orange County, goes to Texas with this group of Adam Woffin followers.

How much did his parents know about where he was going?

How did they react?

So he comes back.

He's living with his family and he has this interaction which leads to a murder here of this young man, Blaise Bernstein.

These two guys knew each other.

They were at the same high school for a while.

They were never close but they did know each other.

What kinds of interactions did they have?

We will get to how this led to a murder in a few moments.

First, we need to take another break here.

Let me reintroduce you.

We are speaking with Eric Lisblau.

His new book is American Reich, a murder in Orange County, neo-Nazis, and a new age of hate.

He'll be back to talk more after this short break.

I'm Dave Davies, and this is Fresh Air.

So it's January 2nd, 2018, and Blaze had been to the University of Pennsylvania where he'd gotten very involved and was back home for break.

And he gets this online outreach from Sam Woodward.

What happens?

Right.