Dave Davies

where these captured Nazis are being held.

His job is to keep them from committing suicide, for one, and then to pursue some combination of therapy and also building psychological profiles to assist in the prosecution.

And in this scene, this is well before the trial gets underway.

You're telling the psychiatrist you want him to get information from Hermann Goring, the highest-ranking Nazi, about their defense strategy.

And the psychiatrist is resisting.

The psychiatrist, he's played by Rami Malek, speaks first.

And that's our guest Michael Shannon with Rami Malek in the new film Nuremberg.

Give us your sense of your character here, Robert Jackson, the Supreme Court justice on this historic mission, how you got into his head.

Yeah, we just finished a dreadful, catastrophic war, yeah.

Right, but there really weren't these international laws before that.

Oh, no.

They were improvising a lot of it.

Well, you know, the climactic moment in the film is in the courtroom at Nuremberg, which had been reconstructed, I gather, carefully to really be historically accurate.

And you, as the prosecutor, had this long exchange with Herman Goring, who was played by Russell Crowe, who just does an amazing job of it, I will say.

I read something interesting in the production notes.

You know, scenes like this would often be shot in pieces.

You know, one character makes a dramatic speech or asks a tough question and then the reaction in response might be shot later with, you know, and then it all gets pieced together.

In this case, as I understand it, four cameras were set up to capture everybody and it was shot in one long continuous take, which is closer to a real life courtroom exchange.

I wonder how that affected, you know, the dynamics, the feel of it.

You know, why don't we just listen to a moment of this, you and Russell Crowe as Hermann Göring in this trial at Nuremberg.