Dave Evans

We'd like to talk to you.

And I said, no, you want to talk to the Dave Evans at Hewlett-Packard.

That's the one who likes computers.

I don't, and I hung up.

And there are lots of Dave Evanses.

You can get them in 24 packs at Costco.

And I was sure that the other Dave Evans who I knew worked at Hewlett Packard and let computers was the guy they wanted.

And a very long story later, including 14 interviews and sitting down for lunch with Steve Jobs, they surprised themselves by offering me a job.

And to my great shock, I took it.

And that's how my high tech career started.

But it was the last thing I wanted to do.

That's correct.

I was in charge of peripheral product marketing.

The two fun things I did was I did the mouse.

I made the first mouse for Apple.

I organized.

I didn't design it myself, but I organized the team of people who did.

And I got to work on laser printing and do this thing called desktop publishing before anybody knew what that was.

I mean, the work we were doing, which was at the beginning of a shift of how technology serves people, was a big deal.

But let's be clear, what I was doing was making stuff.