Dave Evans

The transaction was finish the wrench, make it available on the fire truck.

That's a transaction.

But the moment was standing at the lathe and actually experiencing how a cutting tool and a piece of metal interact.

That's entering into the fullness of the moment.

So moment making turns out to be the critical task of people who want to design more meaning in their life, and particularly the kinds of meaning that can transcend not just impact making, which is wonderful, but hard and short-lived.

These moments full of potential meaningful experience abound in front of us.

So the number one skill of a meaning-making designer is moment making.

Absolutely.

And one of the little tools we've invented for that is the got to get to shift.

When you're thinking transactionally, you're in the transactional world, it's all about getting it done.

So I've got to get this thing done.

You've got to get through this meeting.

I've got to get these people to agree.

I've got to sign this contract.

I've got to get these tasks assigned, whatever that might be, you know, as opposed to I get to participate in this process.

There's a lovely illustration that I think I have permission to use.

Our editor who's working with us on this book is, you know, she's working at home remote one day and her child is in the other room making a bunch of noise while she's about to go on to a Zoom call.

You know, and she started saying to herself, I've got to find a way to get this kid to quiet down while I'm working.

And then she suddenly remembered, oh, yeah, she had just read the got to get to idea in the manuscript and said, no, no, no.

I get to work at home now, which means I get to be in the presence of the effervescent sound coming out of this very alive child.