Dave Evans

And boy, I'm really good at making that version of me work.

And that's where kind of the shift into a greater maturity is a very elective move.

And it starts anywhere from 30 to never.

Not much before 30 because you don't get a neocortex until you're 27 or 28, a little later in men, big surprise.

But look, you don't get a Buddha, you don't get a Moses, you don't get a Jesus until 30, 40 in Moses' case.

It takes a while to make a person.

But once you get past making a person, then you've got to build an ego before you can transcend it.

You've got to have a life container before you can empty it.

So that task of turning yourself into a person in your 20s, 30s, and 40s is a really important task.

But then once you've got one, once you've got a person you trust enough that you believe you deserve to exist,

Now it's time to start emptying out and having a more transcendent experience.

And it is a real tough transition for most people.

Sure.

But I think what it really means is, I mean, people made those transitions in their mid-late 30s to early 40s before because they're going to die at 50.

And now just the window of time during which that transition can occur has stretched.

And shifted.

And so what's happening is people are doubling down.

So William Bridges wrote the book Transitions, Making Sense of Life's Big Changes.

So he posits years ago as an 80s self-help classic.

It's a good book based on Erickson's work that changes are outside-in realities that happen to you.