Dave Evans

Celebrate the heck out of it because this is as good as it gets.

And I'm going to come back tomorrow and try again.

You're a neurosurgeon.

It can be.

Yeah.

So I actually stopped teaching undergrads at Stanford back in 2018.

I now mostly teach in the DCI program, the Distinguished Careers Institute, very fancy name for a gap year for grownups.

anywhere from 45 to 90, mostly 55 to 75 years old, kind of the old folks who used to think about transitioning to what you used to call retirement.

And now what do I do?

So that's the second half of life transition for people.

And the way I characterize the big challenge of that, and these are all

Not all necessarily rich hedge fund people from New York, but we've got plenty of those.

It could be a nonprofit leader, but they're all distinguished people who had impact and enjoyed doing that impactful thing well and got into it and were in the flow.

And now they don't necessarily want to be that person anymore.

So it's the shift from role to soul.

So the shift from I'm a role-based person.

I'm really good at this gymnast thing.

I'm really good at the surgery thing.

And I still value that, but it's not first and foremost where my identity wants to come from now.

And as I move away from that, you know, it's sticky.