Dave Evans

I'm not sure that's actual flow.

I think what it is, it's gratifying that I'm being high-performant.

That's okay.

Yeah.

But if it's the only game you're playing, then you've left flow behind.

Intensity, not complication.

Correct.

Maybe complex, but not complication.

Yeah, so your front-of-the-room guy is technically multitasking, but multitasking like all the colors on the palette when I'm painting, as opposed to like I'm painting and jogging.

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

I was just having a conversation with my friend Steve.

So Steve ran one of the largest and most successful high-end catering programs, catering companies in Southern California, caters to presidents, does Beyonce's birthday party, the $1,000 plate guy.

And he's completely reinvented his life and come up to live in the Redwood Forest in Bondi Dune up near Santa Cruz where I am.

And we're talking about this stuff.

And at one point he drops, he says, look, you got to understand, I'm a really good waiter.

I'm an incredibly good waiter as a host.

He says, I can stand in that room and instantly I'm looking at my seven tables and I know they need water.

They're having a conversation that's going south.

I could put some soothe on there.

You know, that guy's hungry.