Dave Hanratty

But also, the statement he made, right, is probably the most original, thought-provoking, unique thing he's come up with out of all these failed avenues.

It would appear that actually fracturing his family and potentially destroying the brand forever...

I mean, careful what you wish for.

Maybe this was the destiny all along.

I'm just not sure it's a sustainable model of work.

Sorry, do you know her father's big claim to fame?

Being a billionaire?

Apart from that, no.

He claims to be the man who introduced Donald Trump and Elon Musk.

So it's his fault.

It's so like... Family outings and family meals basically are like a quarter four shareholders meeting.

Like it's kind of even the thing that you read out there, that caption.

What emotion did you detect in that?

I mean, it's kind of like... I consider myself quite an emotional person and I've no problem...

publicly stating that whether it's in an instagram post or on a podcast or whatever but there's a level of fakeness to something where you know you see like oh joe you were just the greatest person anyone could ever know you're brilliant like it's like come on like like it's you can you can sniff it out a mile away and you can see this thing and the interesting like the royal family comparison the unofficial royal family thing is quite interesting because maybe the like a reason people do hold them up on that pedestal is because they look at david and victoria as previously working class people who you know like

conquered their industries, in the case of Manchester United, winger and pop star, respectively.

That's aspirational.

The royal family is not aspirational.

They're a freak show for a lot of people.

A freak show that maybe we kind of secretly love because we've got weird Stockholm Syndrome ties in Britain.