Dave Kowalka

Well, it's the same thing you run into with the .45 Auto versus ACP.

People call it .45 ACP.

It's like .45 Auto.

ACP is like automatic Colt pistol.

It's like .45 Auto is the caliber.

Yep.

They had their own thing.

you're reinventing the wheel here we've already got this but i felt like the thing though was like the glock 21 which is a pretty thick beefy gun for the for the 45 uh setup i thought the glock 45 gaps was more like a 17 uh size frame but you it was more like 40 size frame okay well i thought the 40 40 40s and 40s nines are the same size frames i thought are they

Yeah, I don't know either because 40 is gay.

Gay.

But, yeah, no, I thought the thing was, though, was the 45 gap, you were still getting like –

12, 13 rounds of 45, basically caliber in it, which is cool.

Sure.

You know, not being in the larger frame of the clock 21, but yeah, I don't know.

It's dead and gone now.

So who cares?

Yeah.

Didn't he design it kind of like his single action arm would be carried like this and drawn and then cocked?

Yeah.

Wasn't it also the wider spur came from on the Hammer II?