Dave Mack

There's no dirt on the floor that they can see.

I'm still trying to figure out exactly what they mean by immaculate.

Most homes I've been into that have an elderly person

they are immaculate everything's where it belongs everything is in its proper place but you're talking about getting an 84 year old woman out of that house nancy i agree with you 100 um she's not going to be easily taken out of the house because she doesn't move well it's going to require a lot it's going to require at least two people to get her out of the house and

If you don't, I don't see how things can't be bumped.

So I'm a little confused over this idea.

Okay, I'm thinking if I was to help take someone out of a home that is not able to move on their own, I would be bumping into stuff.

If I don't know the layout, I would be knocking things over.

It just seems obvious to me.

And by the way, if I'm kidnapping somebody, I'm not going back to pick it up.

The back door being open,

That does not seem immaculate to me.

The back door open indicates it's not immaculate.

So that's where I'm confused, Nancy.

I don't get the idea that they got an 84-year-old woman out of the house without messing something up.

You know what you're doing.

It's your mother.

You're being careful with her.

You know the layout.

You know where the chairs are.