Dave Mack

And law enforcement, they've got FBI, they've got guys in tactical gear and

K-9 units are out at the site again, and it's an explosion of activity after the place, the home has already been released back to the family.

That bothers me immensely because I wonder what did they miss the first time and why is it all of a sudden becoming a big issue again?

Nancy, it looks to me like they don't consider it somebody that's very close to them.

But, Nancy, in all probability, the person or persons involved in this had access to that house before.

Now, that leaves you with gardeners, people that come by to help out with things around the house.

There are a lot of people that had access to that house, and they would have been familiar with cam replacement and things like that that you've mentioned before about the granny cams.

So there are a lot of people beyond that close family friend group that would have had access to that house.

And maybe that's why you're seeing, they just look devastated to me.

The whole family does.

And all the communication is one way.

It's coming from the kidnappers to them.

They have no way of contacting the kidnapper or kidnappers at this point.

They've been given no communication way of reaching out.

That's why Cameron said, we need to know you've

got her, we need Kay, and we need you to reach out to us to tell us how to get up with you.

They don't know who it is, but it could be somebody they've seen a lot.

There was.

There was a noticeable spike at 2 a.m.

So you're talking about 13 minutes after the camera is pulled down and.