Dave McIntyre

running Fabric Social.

You're very much an influential face there, an influential mind.

That's a company that's doing a lot of campaigns with brands and bringing, I suppose, brand messages to life.

No, but you were instrumental, I suppose, when I worked in Joe and we started podcasting.

I think it was 2016 was our first podcast and you were very much driving that.

I think it was the GA one that we started with and then we started getting brands coming on board and for the podcast, it completely changed the way we were thinking.

Yeah.

And it's good to have yourself and to have Dave, I suppose, from the TV side of things and John from the Sunday paper side of things, because Rory O'Connor was on the Left Wing podcast and he said something interesting.

He was at the Six Nations lunch in Edinburgh and he described how traditional rugby writers are down the pecking order in terms of the priority when it comes to sports.

talking to players and talking to coaches so one of the things he said to will was a very interesting microcosm of where the media is that we used to be the main event when i started but now it's influencers and content creators and people with phone and cameras and we're off in the corner waiting for our five minutes you just know where you stand in the world i thought that was an interesting um suppose line from rural region yeah well look at us that the world of the legacy media is has completely changed um

of interest to people.

Yeah, Rowan Ireland aren't going to produce all that content for the last few years.

And Rod said that before, I think it was the week before that we were on Bits and Bobs together and he was sort of saying, I wish I was going to the Connacht match.

He knew it was going to be a tough gig, but in fairness to him, actually...

He picks on interest and out of being there, like he said, you have to go, you have to go to these things.

Yeah.

We got an email in from Alan and he said he's living in London.

He was back in Cork for the weekend to see his parents and attend a hurling.

Speaking to my sports and newspaper mad dad about your podcast and how I think he would love it.

He reads The Examiner.