Dave Smith

Right, right, exactly. That's basically the whole, you know, he has a little bit where he's talking about the pogroms that preceded the Zionists, but that's really the story. And it actually made me much more sympathetic to the Zionists.

Right, right, exactly. That's basically the whole, you know, he has a little bit where he's talking about the pogroms that preceded the Zionists, but that's really the story. And it actually made me much more sympathetic to the Zionists.

Right, right, exactly. That's basically the whole, you know, he has a little bit where he's talking about the pogroms that preceded the Zionists, but that's really the story. And it actually made me much more sympathetic to the Zionists.

You know, as somebody who grew up kind of in that propaganda, in the pro-Israel propaganda, then ultimately turned on it and became a critic of Israel, listening to his series, you understand. It just puts you in the position, and you do understand, like, oh, okay, these were real men who were reacting to the circumstances of their day.

You know, as somebody who grew up kind of in that propaganda, in the pro-Israel propaganda, then ultimately turned on it and became a critic of Israel, listening to his series, you understand. It just puts you in the position, and you do understand, like, oh, okay, these were real men who were reacting to the circumstances of their day.

You know, as somebody who grew up kind of in that propaganda, in the pro-Israel propaganda, then ultimately turned on it and became a critic of Israel, listening to his series, you understand. It just puts you in the position, and you do understand, like, oh, okay, these were real men who were reacting to the circumstances of their day.

You can kind of understand why a lot of them wanted to do this. By the way, it's pretty amazing that they pulled it off, however you feel. I agree completely. However you feel about what the government of Israel is doing, it's amazing that they did this. And... Yeah, look, and of course, for the one, this is why I say it's a comment on our time.

You can kind of understand why a lot of them wanted to do this. By the way, it's pretty amazing that they pulled it off, however you feel. I agree completely. However you feel about what the government of Israel is doing, it's amazing that they did this. And... Yeah, look, and of course, for the one, this is why I say it's a comment on our time.

You can kind of understand why a lot of them wanted to do this. By the way, it's pretty amazing that they pulled it off, however you feel. I agree completely. However you feel about what the government of Israel is doing, it's amazing that they did this. And... Yeah, look, and of course, for the one, this is why I say it's a comment on our time.

So there's one guy here who's going like, listen, you got to like really completely educate yourself on a subject and then you have to have empathy toward all sides. And then everyone goes, Nazi, that guy's a Nazi. That's what it is to be a Nazi in 2025.

So there's one guy here who's going like, listen, you got to like really completely educate yourself on a subject and then you have to have empathy toward all sides. And then everyone goes, Nazi, that guy's a Nazi. That's what it is to be a Nazi in 2025.

So there's one guy here who's going like, listen, you got to like really completely educate yourself on a subject and then you have to have empathy toward all sides. And then everyone goes, Nazi, that guy's a Nazi. That's what it is to be a Nazi in 2025.

Or just right or claiming he said something that isn't at all what he said. Like he downplayed the atrocities. Why don't you just ask him? No, he didn't.

Or just right or claiming he said something that isn't at all what he said. Like he downplayed the atrocities. Why don't you just ask him? No, he didn't.

Or just right or claiming he said something that isn't at all what he said. Like he downplayed the atrocities. Why don't you just ask him? No, he didn't.

Well, I love... You said this, I forget, a few years ago. I can't remember what it was where you said this, but it was you, and this really hit home with me. And this isn't like... And you weren't suggesting that this is like a proof. This isn't like an irrefutable logical argument. It's kind of like a guide.

Well, I love... You said this, I forget, a few years ago. I can't remember what it was where you said this, but it was you, and this really hit home with me. And this isn't like... And you weren't suggesting that this is like a proof. This isn't like an irrefutable logical argument. It's kind of like a guide.

Well, I love... You said this, I forget, a few years ago. I can't remember what it was where you said this, but it was you, and this really hit home with me. And this isn't like... And you weren't suggesting that this is like a proof. This isn't like an irrefutable logical argument. It's kind of like a guide.

But, you know, you said the thing about you could tell when something's infected because you touch it and you recoil, and you go, ooh, something's going on there. Yeah. What exactly is it? No, that doesn't prove what's going on. But look, you can't, the fact that Daryl's moment on your podcast sitting right here where I'm sitting got such a reaction. Yes. Really demonstrates something.

But, you know, you said the thing about you could tell when something's infected because you touch it and you recoil, and you go, ooh, something's going on there. Yeah. What exactly is it? No, that doesn't prove what's going on. But look, you can't, the fact that Daryl's moment on your podcast sitting right here where I'm sitting got such a reaction. Yes. Really demonstrates something.