Dave Smith

And that, you know, he will basically just start looking at how much damage we're taking, how much this is affecting markets, his political career and all that.

I mean, I as I've said, I've been on the record for this many times.

I think he's already destroyed his presidency.

I just don't like this is the best case scenario is that Donald Trump just calls it quits and then starts saying how amazing it was and how tremendous it was.

I just don't see, you know.

i don't know um obviously donald trump has he's got a track record of being the the most hawkish president on iran um while also you know having a track record of rhetorically talking about how we would never go to war with iran and how what a disaster it would be and how these regime change wars are terrible um but

Well, he has there's been several points between Donald Trump's first term and then including the 12 day war where he kind of got us into a situation, but then took the off ramp when he had it.

And there is, you know, like when they shot down that drone, he didn't respond, even though people were trying to get him to after they responded to him killing Soleimani.

um that he did he took the off-ramp there he took the off-ramp after the 12-day war he see there was good reporting that he was kind of trying to take an off-ramp after day one of this thing and that through the italian negotiators they reached out to offer a ceasefire after they killed the strike and the iranians said no

We're not doing so like the Iranians now seem to be like the calculation has changed that he's now he's changed the incentive structure for Iranian self-preservation, whereas before their calculation reasonably was we can't touch the Americans because then that'll kick off a war.

Now, their calculation also reasonably is we can't not touch the Americans or they're going to keep doing this to us forever.

We got to give them a bloody nose here.

That being said, Donald Trump could just leave, even if Iran isn't going to negotiate with them.

But honestly, Scott, after all this stuff, I mean, look, there's been like 17 different BS justifications for this war.

But a big one of them was they killed 30,000 of their own people and we're going to liberate the people.

And Donald Trump unzipped his fly and put his two balls all the way out there on the table when he announced with a baseball hat and no tie on that this is a regime change.

Right.

i don't know dude like how what do you think like is how is that possibly how could that even possibly work if he just comes back now and you go dude you just blew like probably probably over 10 billion dollars at this point already i saw a a congressional estimate that said it was like 5.6 billion dollars in munitions already um i don't think they were days

Yeah, that was in the first few days.

And I don't even think that counted all the military hardware they moved around in order to get there.