Dave Smith

But there's an interesting offer in a way that J.D.

Vance is making here.

And I'm going to end this episode with a counter offer.

This is kind of what I wanted to have this conversation with Maga about.

And this is why I wanted to close out with this at the end of the show.

So maybe I'll hold off on my counter offer.

But just to be clear about what J.D.

Vance is saying, he goes, look, you can't just take your balls and go home over one thing.

You know?

Yeah.

OK, I mean, the one thing was launching a war of aggression on behalf of a foreign country that turned out to be an absolute disaster.

So it's a pretty big thing.

It's a pretty big thing to some of us.

And I know that this is for the political operators like J.D.

Vance.

I think this is something that's hard for some of them to wrap their head around, that some of us actually believe in things.

And so, yeah, like when we say we don't want to launch a war of aggression on behalf of a foreign country, that is a disaster.

That's something like we're really against.

We really mean that.

It's kind of a deal breaker for us.