Dave Smith

You lose.

We win.

The solution here is that you will be subjugated in perpetuity forever.

And then we got October 7th.

And, you know, in the same way that if you chart this thing out and there's always been a big terrorism problem in the Middle East since since, you know,

whatever you want to start it, but from the Zionist settlers or from the resistance to the Zionist settlers, there's been a terrorism problem there.

But listen, the second Intifada kicked off after the peace process fell apart.

That's when things get their most violent.

That's when, you know, if you could look at Hamas's popularity in Gaza and during the peace process, it was way down.

After the peace process fell apart, it shoots way up.

You know, this is the way these things work.

You can't listen.

You can be for a one state solution where everybody gets, you know, citizenship and voting rights.

You can be for a two state solution where the Palestinians get to have their own country and they can do with it what they want.

But the Israelis get to keep Israel as a Jewish state, like 67 borders or whatever you want to talk.

But.

If you're saying, no, I'm not for either of those, which is kind of the status quo, essentially saying, no, it's all Israel, Israel controls all of it, and those Palestinians just don't get citizenship or representation in their government or due process rights or property rights or travel rights or any of the basic human rights that we would all consider to be natural God-given rights.

If you're saying, no, they get none of that,

I don't see how you can really even argue against October 7th type events as horrific as they are.

You can't just say to a group of people, you have to live in subjugation forever.