Dave Smith

Like if it,

It felt like in in almost all ways, Donald Trump was a huge improvement over the Democrats.

But there were a few issues on the margins that weren't very good.

I would agree with like I'm saying it's not I would agree with the principle like, yeah, come on, dude, we're getting some huge wins here.

We got to stick by it.

Let's stay in the coalition.

When you're spending more money, he's probably spending double what Obama was spending when he was in.

He's spending more money than Joe Biden did in the wake of COVID.

And you're launching wars of aggression.

And again, fair enough that I focus on the foreign policy more than other stuff.

But like, I mean, dude, like the amount of devastation that this thing has already caused.

Um, it's not just like there's a few cents up at the pump.

It's like the global economy has been starved of energy for two months now.

This is going to cause major problems.

Anyway, I just go at a certain point.

I don't think this is the correct strategy.

I think essentially what ends up happening is that libertarians lose, um,

essentially, we lose our reputations, we lose any of our standing as truth tellers, which then undercuts our ability to have political options going forward.

But I would say, isn't it the case, then, like, for someone from your perspective, and correct me if I'm wrong here, but you really think the Free State Project is the best thing is the best libertarian strategy, right?

I mean, that's the most important thing to you is kind of like the health of that project.