Dave Smith

But he's very worried that you lose credibility if you keep saying things that aren't true.

Again, what Donald Trump here... Look, again, this is on the level of trying to convince you that Joe Biden isn't senile when he clearly can't speak.

There's some propaganda that's just...

going to be really tough to sell.

And the idea here, right, as I mentioned on the last show, as I just mentioned in the opening here, the whole game here is to make Iran capitulate.

But the fact that Donald Trump is going to look you in the eye and go, and they totally are.

They are.

They get on the phone with me.

They keep telling me how weak they are, how much they want to make a deal.

But then they get on TV and they just lie.

And it's like, OK.

But then why are they not making a deal?

Why have they not?

I mean, I'm sorry, Rob.

It's just, as I've said, I think I've taken kind of a humble, reasonable stance on this.

I've never said that, like, hey, look what the Iranian regime says.

That's the truth.

Because the Iranians say, look, hey, they lie, too.

They're also a government.

I'm just saying, if you look at the words of both sides and then look at their actions, I don't know.