Dave Smith

I always thought his arguments were totally fallacious.

And now, of course, between...

Trump derangement syndrome and COVID and now really particularly with Israel, he's just kind of completely disgraced himself and lost all of his influence.

And this is, I don't know, I find this to be interesting.

There's like,

We kind of had this world where there was the corporate media and then the intellectual dark web or the Ben Shapiro, Sam Harris types were almost able to position themselves as the alternative to the corporate media.

And this got a lot of excitement because people were fed up with the corporate media for obvious reasons.

Now, when you look back at it, you look back at people like Ben Shapiro and Sam Harris and you're like, they weren't exactly us, right?

When I say that, I mean, they weren't exactly like independent.

Like me and you are like, we're two standup comedians who just started podcasting and talking to each other.

I mean, you know, we had a network in the sense that my buddy Lewis and my buddy Ralph, like run a little podcast network, but we really had to build this show from nothing up to what we have today.

Ben Shapiro started with like millions of dollars in seed money.

And the head of YouTube is talking about how we don't de-platform him because he's a good supporter of Israel.

And in the days where all the right wingers are getting censored, Ben Shapiro is getting pumped huge by the algorithms.

And so, you know, you have this air of like he's independent media, but really when it comes down to it, he's not.

um sam harris also by the way is like you know sam harris's mom wrote the golden girls or whatever like he was like a rich kid who's you know anyway but at a time they were really respected and then the censorship kind of rolled back the the corporate media fell apart even more the podcast rose up even more and now they got real competition

And they can't hang.

They just can't hang.

Their arguments are so like in the same way that the corporate media needed a complete controlled environment in order to do what they do.

These guys also needed a controlled environment.