Dave Smith

So even people who read Sam Harris's substack, whoever these people are, I guess in this case it's us, but generally it's not, even they're going...

I mean, this is what I'm saying.

Even they're going, eh, there are some points on the other side here.

And if you're going to go out and smear all the people who, you know, are critical of Israel, maybe you should take one of them on.

I don't know.

I found it particularly interesting that even in this, he mentions, he goes to debate someone, really anyone.

Like, there's just something interesting about that to me where it goes, essentially, his listeners aren't saying, you got to go debate Dave Smith.

You got to go debate, you know, whoever, Max Blumenthal or Nick Fuentes or, you know, like whoever the person, Tucker Carlson or whoever the person is.

They're going, but shouldn't you do it with someone else?

shouldn't you once put your ideas up there and listen to their rebuttals and then attempt to rebut their rebuttals?

I mean, again, I think this is kind of a point I've made with Ben Shapiro, of course, a lot.

It's like Ben Shapiro will debate trans issues.

Ben Shapiro, he debated destiny.

He'll sit down with like a dude, you know, who,

is about as far away from his professed you know opinions or whatever as possible um sam harris will debate jordan peterson on religion he'll debate all but none of them will debate this topic now it seems that like given that this topic whether you agree with it or not is like

a pretty big issue in this country over the last few years.

Maybe you think it's just a crazy obsession.

It shouldn't be this big of an issue, but it has become that.

And given how you're claiming that you have to be a moral lunatic in order to be a critic of Israel, why wouldn't one of you just come and get the easy win at some point?

I mean, I don't know.