David Allison

And I think it's especially true in people who are recovering from injury, bodybuilding, looking for performance in athletics, looking for strength, who are older, who are growing, all of those things.

The answer is probably no one.

Okay.

I mean, that's a very important statement.

There are rare exceptions.

It goes back to goals.

You might say you might find people, in fact, not might, I think you almost certainly would, who say, I don't care about any of those things you just mentioned.

The only thing I care about is saving the planet.

And my thing is I should eat as little as possible and as little protein as possible and as little animal product as possible for that.

Somebody else could say, my goal is to be nearer to God, and this gets me nearer to my God in my way.

Someone else said, my goal is an aesthetic.

I want to look like a heroin addict in a doorway in Manhattan in 1970.

That's your aesthetic.

But those people are rare.

I think here's where we get into that issue of recognizing the limits of our knowledge and then being able to wrangle with them rationally as opposed to irrationally, state the limits of our knowledge.

So I put up a LinkedIn post and I put up many about protein in the last 12 or more months.

And one of them I included a quotation was from one of my old mentors in graduate school, Harold Euchre.

who famously said, I'm a data nut.

Students gave him a t-shirt that said that.

And he would say, show me the data.