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David Allison

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The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

And we're going to have to sort of think about if they all line up perfectly.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

Smoking is an example of that where almost everything lines up.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

You may not have the perfect study you want, but the cell stuff, the mouse stuff, the animal stuff, the epidemiology, the clinical trials would get people to stop smoking.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

They all line up to say, smoke is really bad.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

Don't smoke.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

If they all line up, great, then it's easy.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

If they don't all line up, we also have to start to talk about how strong is each piece of evidence, both in terms of its generalizability to what we really want, as well as in and of itself, is it strong?

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

And I think those studies that we've just described are not especially dispositive to me.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

Why the difference?

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

Well, because you're already sort of on the asymptote, right?

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

It's like anything else.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

Take someone who's never had any value of it and you get a big benefit.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

Give a mouse that has no leptin, just a tiny little bit of leptin, and it immediately starts to slim down quite a lot.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

Give a mouse that has a normal amount of leptin a little bit more, you're going to observe almost nothing.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

Give a kid who's been studying algebra for an hour a day vigorously and diligently an extra 10 minutes of studying algebra, you're probably not going to get that much benefit.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

Give a kid who's never been exposed to algebra at all 10 minutes a day of tutoring algebra, probably start to get some real benefits soon.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

Absolutely.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

One of the things that irks me about the field of nutrition, and I don't know the solution to this, it goes back a little bit to the challenges we have, but this is really an economic challenge, not an intrinsic challenge.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

Look at the sample sizes of studies in nutrition in general, randomized controlled trials of nutrition in general, especially of things like protein intake.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

And then