David Allison

money relatively speaking there.

They don't have the economic wherewithal to do it.

They also don't have the mandate to do it.

My group, 20 plus years ago, we did the first randomized controlled trial ever commissioned of their products by the Frito-Lay company.

And my gosh, were they scared about this?

Didn't know what they're getting into.

Turned out, we compared chips fried in corn oil to low-fat chips and cookies and crackers and things to traditional chips and cookies and crackers that had more saturated fat and trans fat.

And the idea was, is low-fat better than

corn oil?

And the answer was no.

Assuming you can control your calories, you're better off eating the full fat corn oil chips.

With the exception, I think of triglycerides.

My recollection is the traditional trans fat, sat fat were worse.

I think the low fat, high carb was worse for triglycerides and the high fat corn oil type stuff.

was Better for Everything.

That's published in AJCN.

Marie-Pierre Saint-Ange was the first author of that.

And it was interesting, the criticism we got, again, it was Marion Nestle was one of the few critics, and it was typical.

Never touched the science.

They never said, well, the design was wrong or the measurements were wrong.