David Allison

Got huge press.

And as he holds it out to the camera, he says, this is a heart attack on a plate.

This is a heart attack on a plate is not a tempered statement that says, this is what I think we know today, but it could change later.

So I think we need to be more honest about that.

What was he referring to that was causing the heart attack in that?

I think the implication was the saturated fat or maybe the saturated fat and sodium.

So in any case, I think we need to do better with that.

I know of no compelling evidence for harm.

That doesn't mean there couldn't be any.

But I know of no compelling evidence for harm.

I know of no studies showing that humans get more cancer with this.

I think we need to be skeptical of the mouse studies, the epidemiologic studies for reasons I've indicated.

I think at some point we need to recognize, as people did when I put up that LinkedIn post and I said, show me the data.

Can anybody send me one?

Many people responded with something...

akin to, I can't show you that study, David, but can you show me the complement or the opposite study that meets all your criteria and shows there isn't harm?

And the answer may be no, I'm not sure, but

what I can say is at some point when you've looked enough and you've failed to see harm, where's the burden of proof?

So if you don't have a really strong a priori rationale, now we can argue about that.

There probably is legitimate debate.