David Allison

How do I think we should tell them to achieve that?

The latter one, I'll loop back to in a minute, but I'm not really the expert on that.

The former one, what I would say is, I think you and I are largely aligned on this.

I would say, if you just want to survive, or if you just want to survive, the RDA is probably okay.

for most people.

But if you want to thrive in these goals that most of us share, then I would aim for in the neighborhood of two grams per kilogram per day, per person, spaced out throughout the day.

Great analogy.

My uncle, my great uncle, who was a professor from the old country and the old school and a philosophy professor, when his kids would come home in America from school, he would say, good, now playtime's over.

Now you sit down and we study Latin and math and logic and you do the real work.

And then there's probably yet another example.

You may know that in South Korea, they actually had to pass some laws recently or chose to pass some laws recently that I forget the details of them, but that students could only study so much because they're really starting to get worried of students just going too far.

And I think those are good examples.

To me, it's sort of like the RDA for protein intake is like what my uncle saw the American schools as.

It's like, yes, it's just enough to pass high school and do something.

The next level up is what my uncle did, which was, we're going to really do some work and get you closer to an optimum level.

Maybe what some students do is maybe go too far.

But I also think it's interesting to see, in what way were they going too far?

Did anybody ever say or show that if you study algebra or anything else, 12 hours a day instead of two hours a day, it directly causes harm?

And I don't know of anything like that.

Now, if you said to me, if you study algebra or whatever for 12 hours a day, ipso facto, you are not exercising, you are not socializing, you may be not sleeping enough, et cetera, then you have a problem.