David Allison
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And he said, we need to change this.
We need a social movement.
Now he's looking at all these executives from the food industry.
And he says, history shows us over and over that social change happens when there's a villain.
He says, we need a villain.
And he says, guess who it is?
You.
So that was the start of this villainization.
What year was that?
I don't remember exactly, but I would say it was mid-90s.
And it was Michael Mudd, who was from Kraft at the time, convened that meeting.
Good meeting.
And he's like, I invited this guy?
Yeah.
Michael had courage.
Anyway, so that was that start of it.
And now ultraprocess is just a great way to demonize stuff.
It's just another demon.
We're off of soybean oil, maybe, phytoestrogens.
We dealt with fat for a while.