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David Allison

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The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

So I think there's some real intrinsic difficulties.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

Everything we do in the public health realm almost seems like either we can't get it to stick, or we didn't think through enough.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

If it stuck, it would work.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

Or it's like whack-a-mole.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

That is, you get me to consume fewer calories here or expend more energy there, and then I expend less here or consume more there.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

So I think that's the intrinsic problem.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

And then I think the other problem is that we started off with the obvious stuff.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

We looked for the keys under the lamppost because that's where the light was best.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

We said, ah, school-based approaches, farmer's markets, walking trails, calories on the menu, so on.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

Good ideas, all good ideas.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

Nudge.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

We tried them.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

None of them really seemed to work meaningfully.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

At the beginning, that was fine.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

What I think we have is a failure of courage, honesty, and creativity to say, we've shown that none of those things have large, demonstrable, meaningful effects.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

We've not shown that none of them could ever have any effect under any circumstance.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

But I think for practical purposes, we've shown that those things don't have large, demonstrable, meaningful effects.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

And I think it's time to stop pretending that they might and proposing and funding the next study that's only a trivial variant on the many, many such studies that went before and were shown to not be successful.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

I think we need to start taking radically different views and say, the next time someone comes and says, I've got this parent-based or school-based or community-based idea, tell us how it's radically different than what's gone before, not trivially different.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 โ€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

I think you asked me this once before, and I'm going to change my answer slightly, but not that much.