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David Boree

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Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

Or, you know, convention center. Um, you know, there's different kinds of public spaces. I don't know. Like, yeah, honestly, if you've been to like a fucking anime convention or a magic, the gathering convention somewhere in the Bay, you may have been in one of the rooms they did these. And I don't know exactly where they hold this. Um,

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

Or, you know, convention center. Um, you know, there's different kinds of public spaces. I don't know. Like, yeah, honestly, if you've been to like a fucking anime convention or a magic, the gathering convention somewhere in the Bay, you may have been in one of the rooms they did these. And I don't know exactly where they hold this. Um,

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

So the person A mentioned above, this person who's affiliated with the organization that I think is a recruiter looking for young people who can be cultivated to pay for classes, right? This person, it's very clear to them that Ziz is at the height of her vulnerability. And so he tries to take advantage of that. So he and another person from the organization engage Ziz during a break.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

So the person A mentioned above, this person who's affiliated with the organization that I think is a recruiter looking for young people who can be cultivated to pay for classes, right? This person, it's very clear to them that Ziz is at the height of her vulnerability. And so he tries to take advantage of that. So he and another person from the organization engage Ziz during a break.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

So the person A mentioned above, this person who's affiliated with the organization that I think is a recruiter looking for young people who can be cultivated to pay for classes, right? This person, it's very clear to them that Ziz is at the height of her vulnerability. And so he tries to take advantage of that. So he and another person from the organization engage Ziz during a break.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

uh ziz who's extremely insecure asks them point blank what do you think my net value ultimately will be in life right and again there's like an element of this it's almost like rationalist calvinism where it's like it's actually decided ahead of time by your inherent immutable characteristics you know if you are a person who can do good quote i asked person a if they expected me to be net negative they said yes

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

uh ziz who's extremely insecure asks them point blank what do you think my net value ultimately will be in life right and again there's like an element of this it's almost like rationalist calvinism where it's like it's actually decided ahead of time by your inherent immutable characteristics you know if you are a person who can do good quote i asked person a if they expected me to be net negative they said yes

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

uh ziz who's extremely insecure asks them point blank what do you think my net value ultimately will be in life right and again there's like an element of this it's almost like rationalist calvinism where it's like it's actually decided ahead of time by your inherent immutable characteristics you know if you are a person who can do good quote i asked person a if they expected me to be net negative they said yes

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

after a moment they asked me what i was feeling or something like that i said something like dazed and sad they asked why sad i said i might leave the field as a consequence and maybe something else i said i needed time to process or think and so she like she goes home after this guy saying like yeah i think you're not life's probably net negative value uh and sleeps the rest of the day uh and she wakes up the next morning um and comes back to the second day of this thing uh and

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

after a moment they asked me what i was feeling or something like that i said something like dazed and sad they asked why sad i said i might leave the field as a consequence and maybe something else i said i needed time to process or think and so she like she goes home after this guy saying like yeah i think you're not life's probably net negative value uh and sleeps the rest of the day uh and she wakes up the next morning um and comes back to the second day of this thing uh and

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

after a moment they asked me what i was feeling or something like that i said something like dazed and sad they asked why sad i said i might leave the field as a consequence and maybe something else i said i needed time to process or think and so she like she goes home after this guy saying like yeah i think you're not life's probably net negative value uh and sleeps the rest of the day uh and she wakes up the next morning um and comes back to the second day of this thing uh and

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

Yeah. Ziz goes back and she tells this person, okay, here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to pick a group of three people at the event I respect, including you. And if two of them vote that they think I have a net negative value, quote, I'll leave EA and existential risk and the rationalist community and so on forever. I'd transition and move probably to Seattle.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

Yeah. Ziz goes back and she tells this person, okay, here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to pick a group of three people at the event I respect, including you. And if two of them vote that they think I have a net negative value, quote, I'll leave EA and existential risk and the rationalist community and so on forever. I'd transition and move probably to Seattle.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

Yeah. Ziz goes back and she tells this person, okay, here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to pick a group of three people at the event I respect, including you. And if two of them vote that they think I have a net negative value, quote, I'll leave EA and existential risk and the rationalist community and so on forever. I'd transition and move probably to Seattle.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

I heard it was relatively nice for trans people. and there do what I could to be a normie. Retool my mind as much as possible to be stable, unchanging, and a normie. Gradually abandon my Facebook account and email. Use a name change as a story for that. And... God, that would have been the best thing for her.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

I heard it was relatively nice for trans people. and there do what I could to be a normie. Retool my mind as much as possible to be stable, unchanging, and a normie. Gradually abandon my Facebook account and email. Use a name change as a story for that. And... God, that would have been the best thing for her.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

I heard it was relatively nice for trans people. and there do what I could to be a normie. Retool my mind as much as possible to be stable, unchanging, and a normie. Gradually abandon my Facebook account and email. Use a name change as a story for that. And... God, that would have been the best thing for her.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

Oh man. She sees this as a nightmare, right? This is the worst case scenario for her, right? Because you're not part of the cause. You know, you have no involvement in the great quest to save humanity. That's worse than death almost, right?

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

Oh man. She sees this as a nightmare, right? This is the worst case scenario for her, right? Because you're not part of the cause. You know, you have no involvement in the great quest to save humanity. That's worse than death almost, right?

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

Oh man. She sees this as a nightmare, right? This is the worst case scenario for her, right? Because you're not part of the cause. You know, you have no involvement in the great quest to save humanity. That's worse than death almost, right?