CZM Rewind: How The Zizians Went Full On Death Cult & The Zizian Murder Spree (or Exactly How Harry Potter Fanfic Killed A Border Patrol Agent)
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is discussed at the start of this section?
0:00–5:29
2
How does Ziz's living situation impact her mental state?
5:29–8:32
3
What are the implications of the 'vegan Sith' ideology?
8:32–13:23
4
How do Ziz and Gwyn's beliefs lead to tragic outcomes?
13:23–1:23:38
5
What cult-like dynamics are present in the rationalist community?
1:23:38–1:24:19
6
What allegations of abuse emerge within the rationalist community?
1:24:19–1:25:25
7
How do the Zizians escalate their plans and actions?
1:25:25–1:26:47
8
What are the consequences of the Zizians' actions leading to violence?
1:26:47–2:43:22