David Boree

And your suicidal impulses are caused by both the pain of being trans and also the fact that there's this dead man living in your head that's like taking up half of your brain's space.

And so you really need to debuck it in order to have a chance of surviving, right?

OK, so she needs to be jailbroken to be free.

To be free.

And Maya will basically replace her sleep entirely with this unihemispheric sleep crap, which exacerbates not sleeping, exacerbates your depressive swings and leads to deeper and deeper trials of suicidal ideation.

She is believed to have died by suicide in February of 2018.

She posts a what is essentially a suicide note that is very rationalist in its verbiage, literally titled Decision Theory and Suicide.

And this is the first death directly related to Ziz and Gwen's ideas.

But I think it's important to note that like the role mainstream rationalism plays in all of this.

Suicide is a common topic at CIFAR events and people will argue constantly about whether or not like a low value individual, it's better for them to kill themselves, right?

Is that like a higher net value to the world?

And it was also used as like a threat to stop women who were abused by figures in the community from speaking up.

And this is from that Bloomberg article.

One woman in the community who asked not to be identified for fear of reprisals says she was sexually abused by a prominent AI researcher.

After she confronted him, she says, she had job offers rescinded and conference speaking gigs canceled and was disinvited from AI events.

She said others in the community told her allegations of misconduct harmed the advancement of AI safety.

And one person suggested an agentic option would be to

kill herself.

So there is just within rationalism, this discussion of like, it can be agentic as in like you are taking high agency to kill yourself if you're going to be a net harm to the cause of AI safety, which you will be by reporting this AI researcher who molested you, right?

Yeah, because you're taking them, man...