David Boree

I don't think she's super close to Yudkowsky.

I'm sure they're at the same events and stuff several times.

She definitely sees him speak.

She definitely talks with him.

But like, I don't think that they would ever have been close.

Right.

OK.

She does try to force a conversation with Anna Salomon outside of CFAR HQ about this and other discoveries she and Gwyn had made on their boats.

And Ziz like writes in the blog post about it that like she felt it was going pretty good and Anna was listening to her.

There are context clues that I don't think Ziz picks up on that like, oh, no, Anna immediately felt uncomfortable and like you were assaulting her, like coming up to

her and just like kind of barraging her with all of this nonsense.

And she did not want to have this conversation.

And she kind of pretended to be agree with you in order to end this because she's not sure if you're dangerous, which to be fair, you are.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Soon later at a CIFAR board meeting, Anna recommended that Ziz be disinvited from joint MIRI CIFAR events.

And both of these are separate organizations, but basically the membership overlaps or like a circle, right?

Her reasoning for not wanting Ziz at events is that Ziz wore, quote, black clothes, took supervillains as role models and came up with dangerous plans.

Yeah.

More or less correct.

I forgot that she was also wearing black robes.