David Boree

There's a lot in terms of these two and their interactions with the court system that I'm not going to get into, right?

Um, because it, it's, it's just, we, we simply can't go down all of those rabbit holes, but you should know that like the, like this is a, a factor in everyone's thinking is like their two friends are in prison.

They're constantly sending these letters to the judge.

They're like making these like weird rationalist arguments in their court cases.

And like, that's all going down while Ziz and the remainder of her inner circle kind of go on the run.

Right.

Because, you know, now they've been involved in a murder.

Right.

Gwen seems to go fully into hiding at this time.

I don't know if that's because of the murder or just because she had finally had enough of Ziz and all of her talk about killing.

But in any case, she goes to ground around this point.

Now, while all this is going on, I hate to keep bringing in new people, but there's a bunch of them.

There's a bunch of them.

Jamie up in Vermont, I don't think is continuing to is seeing Alice Monday anymore.

Alice seems to have also made the wise decision to fucking bounce and go to ground.

Jamie is living with a another Ziz follower named Daniel Blank up in Vermont at this point.

And Jamie has gotten increasingly into Ziz's ideas.

Blank is one of the people – we know he delivers several documents to the court on Somni's behalf during this whole – like after they go get charged with murder.

And he's like a guy who has like a job and stuff going on in his life.

And then like a month after this shooting, stabbing, he drops out of society, cuts ties with his family, and quits his job to go live with Jamie and like –