David Carney

Now, I think there's a lot of interesting ideas and maybe a philosophy we can get into on this kind of stuff.

And I'd love to explore it.

I know my co-founder, Avery, has thought a lot about this kind of stuff, too.

It's very early days for us.

It's a very interesting and academic piece of tech.

This is, I guess, I can talk more about some of the journey last year if you want, but we started going to conferences and talking about TSIDP to people, especially in the AI space, because we're like, oh, this is very fascinating from an MCP point of view.

That's like...

It facilitates ease of use within the size of a tail net.

It helps you keep things private.

Identity is a first-class thing.

TSIDP is a way of showing that off.

And people were very interested in it, but then they kept on coming back to just more concrete problems of like, oh, I need to get access to a customer network, or I'm dealing with API keys, or much more tangible first-order problems.

Whereas TSIDP is like three or four steps down the line for them.

which is why we pivoted last year, sort of a little bit away from it.

But I guess in terms of projects, it's still very actively, there's a lot of active interest and we use it internally, but the stuff I've worked on has shifted a little bit.

Yeah, and thank you for that.

Yeah, so Aperture is definitely the evolution of a lot of that exploration last year.

And so for those of you who aren't aware, Aperture is basically an AI gateway built on top of TSNet, which I mentioned earlier, that works inside of your tail net.

And you can expose it.

Well, there are ways to expose it externally.