David Cooper (host)

Like, how do you talk to seven people?

How do you make these conversations flow?

And all of my only answer for him was like, I just do it every day.

I just practice every day.

Is there an element to that, to being a hype?

I know the answer to this question is yes, as I ask it, but I just want you to expand on it.

to become great at your craft, whether it's classical music, whether it's being a rock star, whether it's being a painter, whatever it is to become great at your craft.

Is there that element of just like putting in the hours and practicing every day, even when you're not feeling great, even when you feel like you're practicing is going nowhere, you know, whether you're in a good mood that morning and everything feels optimistic and everything you do is great, or you're in a terrible mood that morning and everything you do, every note you play in your French horn sounds awful, just grinding.

Like,

that to it well i mean on the one hand yes and no i mean like we have to listen to our bodies you know if um things hurt you know things are really tired you gotta take you gotta just take it easy and you can't grind through that you're right you're right i i don't quite mean it like that david i mean like you know what is that whiplash like where the guy's hands are bleeding and the guy's like come on faster it's it's not like that it's just

I wake up mornings and I'm like, I can't think of a single good question.

Or I look at, I look at the brief for an interview that I've gotten.

I'm like, I don't know where this is going to go, but I show up and I do my best anyway, you know?

Well, but that's the thing is like, so in order to get a job in a major orchestra, like you just have to put the time in, you have to spend like hours in a room alone by yourself, solving problems for at least a year to get that job.

Like, you know, you have to spend many hours a day.

And then once you get the job,

For me, I've done it two ways.

I've done it where I get the job and I'm like, oh, I'm so tired.

I'm just going to relax.

And then I stop doing the things that I did to get the job.