David Cooper

But you've brought up this new thread of something to think about, which is just the human trust angle that I've not spoken much about before.

Do you think this is a kind of lens we should be looking at it with?

Yeah, at the risk of pointing out something slightly uncomfortable, you didn't tell your students the truth.

That's true, I didn't.

Maybe I need to send an email after this.

But you were doing a scholarly research paper to prove all this stuff, so I see why you did it.

So I feel like you've got a defensible position here, Josh.

Well, this has been an interesting chat and kind of a new angle that we've taken looking at this stuff.

I appreciate you coming on the show.

Grateful to be here.

Thanks again, David.

Josh Lambert is a biostatistics professor at the University of Cincinnati.

New partner.

He can be a little by the book.

You're not much use to me alive, but you're really no use to me dead.

I never knew you cared.

Two perspectives, one mission.

You guys work in the open.

We work in the shadows.

Nice work, partner.