David Cooper

They see the news, they're unhappy.

But then actually getting around to it, leaving your community, figuring out immigration, there's a huge gap there is what you're saying.

The systems are completely different, but I moved from Canada to the US and navigating the US immigration system as someone who's not American was not easy.

I can't imagine it's any different in Canada.

So if Americans aren't going to Canada, where are they going?

nearby the beach uh place to go out to say uh toronto so i couldn't sort of bring my beach chair out on the great lakes i mean you don't hear a lot of that i don't know i just brought my my my partner my girlfriend to toronto like late spring and she was like why is it so cold here she was born in california now the canadian perspective if canadians are leaving are they leaving more than usual and if so where are they going

Are we looking at like advanced education here, more money in your wallet, higher salaries?

These are the kinds of folks that find mobility easy?

Is there any generational shift in thinking?

Like do younger Americans and Canadians think differently about migration than previous generations?

Jack, is the bottom line, despite what people are saying about the political situation, either side of the border and whether they're contemplating moving, is the bottom line migration's just not happening that much more than usual right now?

Well, Jack Chedwob is from the Canadian Studies and Metropolis Institute.

Jack, I've enjoyed the chat.

Thanks for being on the show.

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