David Deida

Let's say you told a lie to a business partner or to your wife or whoever, or maybe just to yourself, but you've told a lie.

And then for some gain, personal gain, you know, so you told a lie and now that moment has passed, but you know you've told the lie.

That creates a kind of contraction or tension in your body and mind.

And when you come to this place of zero, all of those tensions from your entire life, all the ways you've lied to yourself and others, come back to the surface.

So you'll be sitting there and

a memory of this person you lied to will come up.

It could even be deeper than that.

So we have a genetic past and an epigenetic past and an ancestral past.

And so just even at the mammalian level, we have mammals, we're mammals, and mammals fight and fuck and run.

And so you'll be sitting there and mammalian urges to kill and fuck and they'll arise and die.

The moments you've lied to people and hurt them, those moments will arise.

And they're arising to your awareness to be released.

It's a kind of purification.

Like you said, they've been stuffing them down.

So it is, it's quite the ride.

It's not like a vanilla, you know, so you have to be, that's why I wrote the book because I want men to understand that and be able to tolerate that unfolding.

I would say the interest becomes less, but if you've become effective, that stays there.

Your skills are diminished.

I'm not even sure you're less effective at playing the game.

You're just less moved to.