David Deida

Different from what?

40 some years.

Okay.

I wouldn't say I'm worried about anything, but I would say that as women take over the functions that men once had, men will have to find the deeper reason for being.

And that deeper reason is what we've been talking about this whole time to

um frame everything to hold everything to be presence to be depth so whatever somebody's doing your presence deepens them so they're doing becomes deeper and that involves a different form of self-worth if you will like you're not measuring yourself on you know how much money you have or how much weight you can lift you're kind of measuring yourself on if you want to use that word on your stability

be what you are and rather than getting lost in thoughts or in activities.

Well, the way I use that term is identifying more with the emptiness aspect of being than the fullness aspect of being.

So the feminine is all into growth and change and flowering and fullness and eyeing.

And the masculine is more oriented to timelessness and peace and being.

So there are two different orientations, emptiness and fullness, or presence and radiance.

There's different ways of saying it.

I don't really think of it in those terms, but there's definitely a through line.

Um,

For whatever reasons, this desire to understand reality or who I am or who we are has started very, very early in my life.

Very early.

I mean, I remember being in the crib.

I remember being diapered and feeling like, ooh, you know, like there's...

I remember learning what perspective is or crawling on the carpet my grandparents house and realizing what size meant like some things were bigger than others like I it's just something I've been interested in all of my life and so at some point in my life that led me to mathematics I developed the indication calculus

which is a calculus of distinctions, how distinctions arise in consciousness, published papers in that.