David Duvenaud

Oh, exactly.

And I think hate speech laws are the classic example of someone who realizes that what's lawful is a really important lever, and then they basically say, you're not allowed to criticize this group.

And that's just such an important lever of political control that I think if we have lawful AI, then...

The fight is going to be who is... Over what the laws are.

Yeah, what the laws are.

And those laws are going to refer specifically to what groups you're allowed to organize with or against or something like that.

Well, I mean, I guess the reason why I feel like it's sort of important to talk about it is just because the big preparation we need to do or one of the big things we need to be preparing for is...

Just like we have all these constitutional protections for the real constitutions.

Everyone realizes this is a super serious business, whether you change the constitution, it's kind of like your permanent path to power or disempowerment or whatever.

People take the Second Amendment in the States super, super seriously, and I think they're right to because of the potential of long-term tyranny.

So I basically want to see the same seriousness in the handling of the AI value loading.

But, I mean, I think we will.

I think there absolutely is exactly the sort of thing that governments are going to pass a law.

And, I mean, I think it could even be done at first for, like, pandering.

Like, instead of me saying I'm going to represent, like, this constituency by, like, passing some complicated law where they get subsidies for their favorite industry or whatever, I can just say...

I'm going to add a line to the system prompt that like the AI should put like this group first or something like that.

So for a while, I think it'll be this like terrible political football and we'll end up with these like horrible kludge system prompts.

And then the hope is just that at some point, like everyone serious starts to realize, okay, we need to like deliberate about this about as hard as we did with the actual constitutions of countries.

Well, exactly, exactly.

I mean, I'm also like sort of reflexively fearful of the government.