David E. Sanger
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first heard Dec 2024
last heard 23 Jul
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And the Secretary of State at the time, John Kerry, sat down opposite Javid Zarif, who was the Iranian foreign minister at the time, and they hashed things out.
And sometimes when it got too heated, they took a walk around downtown Vienna to go sort it out.
That's not what's going on here.
What's going on here is messages being passed through the Qataris or through the Pakistanis,
It's a pretty stilted process, and they haven't really gotten to even the first steps of writing a comprehensive nuclear agreement.
And it's very hard for me to imagine, Rachel, right now, with the two sides actively shooting at each other, the ceasefire declared off, a blockade back on the Iranian ports, that you could even start that process up again.
And to the extent that they are talking now, it's really just about free passage in the strait and maybe even getting back to a ceasefire.
But all of those basics...
the sort of fundamentals you need in order to start a conversation, that's what's collapsed here.
That's right.
It was wide open.
It was wide open during...
the 1979 revolution.
It was wide open during the Iran-Iraq war.
It was wide open during our nuclear crises.
And now, of course, it's sucking up all the oxygen in the negotiating room.
It is because the Iranians have discovered that it was a lot easier to close down the Strait and the weapon was a lot more powerful than they had imagined.
And so now they have no interest in giving it up.
Look, they only have two forms of leverage against the United States.
One is the ability to build a nuclear weapon on fairly short notice.
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