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David E. Sanger

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The Daily
Trump’s Plan to Reorder the World

But it even goes beyond that, Natalie, because there are sections of it that explicitly say that to make this work, we're going to kick other powers out of our region.

The Daily
Trump’s Plan to Reorder the World

And that's code word for China.

The Daily
Trump’s Plan to Reorder the World

Because in the past, Natalie, when the U.S.

The Daily
Trump’s Plan to Reorder the World

turned its attention away from the Western Hemisphere—

The Daily
Trump’s Plan to Reorder the World

when his focus was on China and the Indo-Pacific.

The Daily
Trump’s Plan to Reorder the World

The irony is that the Chinese were moving into Latin America and really made huge inroads there economically.

The Daily
Trump’s Plan to Reorder the World

And that makes it all the stranger that the document doesn't really name China specifically.

The Daily
Trump’s Plan to Reorder the World

as the big player in the region.

The Daily
Trump’s Plan to Reorder the World

And there's been some debate about why that is.

The Daily
Trump’s Plan to Reorder the World

Some people think it was the work of Scott Besson, the Treasury Secretary, who's trying to negotiate trade deals with China.

The Daily
Trump’s Plan to Reorder the World

He doesn't want to particularly anger them before President Trump's scheduled visit to Beijing in April.

The Daily
Trump’s Plan to Reorder the World

But what it certainly does is it suggests the U.S.

The Daily
Trump’s Plan to Reorder the World

is going to boot out anybody who it thinks shouldn't be there.

The Daily
Trump’s Plan to Reorder the World

Well, in some cases, the president has declared he wants Chinese companies physically out of, say, the Panama Canal, where he exaggerated the control of the Chinese military, which has very little presence there.

The Daily
Trump’s Plan to Reorder the World

But what he really means is that by expanding the American economic presence, by making sure that everyone in the region buys American products and runs on American operating systems,

The Daily
Trump’s Plan to Reorder the World

that basically he would squeeze out the Chinese and other competitors.

The Daily
Trump’s Plan to Reorder the World

And of course, you travel in Latin America.

The Daily
Trump’s Plan to Reorder the World

What do you see?

The Daily
Trump’s Plan to Reorder the World

You see Huawei phones.

The Daily
Trump’s Plan to Reorder the World

You see Chinese 5G networks.