David E. Sanger
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especially because their own economy wasn't doing so wonderfully before the war in iran and this increase in energy prices is killing a lot of chinese enterprises
But for the Chinese, it's a little more complicated than just that.
President Trump will undoubtedly ask them to stop supplying targeting data and technology to the Iranians, technology the Iranians need for their missiles, for their interceptors, and for generally pursuing the war.
The United States also wants China to use its influence with Iran, since it is such a big purchaser of Iranian goods, to get the Iranians to open up the strait.
And it'll be really interesting to see whether President Xi, who is very cautious but has a strong interest in seeing the war end, might actually quietly intervene on the U.S.
's behalf with Iran.
I guess the question is what feels like a win and what they can sell as a win.
For President Trump, I think it's pretty clear that
He always wants to emerge from these with a bunch of business deals and announce that that was indeed his goal out here as dealmaker-in-chief.
But as we've discussed, that doesn't get at some of the fundamental questions, including whether the Chinese, after Iran, view the United States as not quite as invincible as perhaps some leaders thought they may be.
For President Xi, it's something of a longer game.
He isn't particularly interested in the individual deals that come out.
If they help grease the wheels of diplomacy, that's fine.
But President Xi may want to demonstrate that he, in fact, is running the more stable power right now.
that it is not invading other countries or following the law of the jungle, as he said the other day in a veiled swipe at President Trump.
And that over time, the world will depend on Chinese power, Chinese capital to rebuild and to establish new trading relationships around the world.
I think that's his long-term plan.
And I think he may doubt whether the United States has a long-term plan of its own.
Great to be with you, Michael.
What a month.
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